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		<title>By: BoltonLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoltonLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sunday Telegraph 28.06.2009 reveals more details of John Bercow&#039;s £40,000 private income. Page 7 Quote by Patrick Sawer &amp; Melissa Kite: &#039;The new Commons Speaker was accused last night of profiting from his work as a government adviser on special educational needs. John Bercow was paid £40,000 by a health care firm which hired him after he wrote a report that led to a £52 million increase in special needs funding. The MP worked for six months for the Priory Group, which runs a number of special needs schools, giving advice about children who suffer from speech and language difficulties. He attended around five board meetings before he resigned from the post on becoming Speaker last week The payments declared by Mr Bercow in the Register of Members&#039; Interests will now raise questions about the propriety of MPs taking money from firms working in an area in which they have dealt directly in Parliament.
Tory opponents of Mr Berocow, who was voted in as Michael Martin&#039;s replacement despite little support from his own party, said the disclosures cast fresh doubts on his suitability as Speaker. &quot; This calls into question his judgement. He appears to have profited from his work as Brown&#039;s adviser&quot;, said one MP.
Mr Bercow, once a member of the right-wing Monday Club but now on the left of his party, has also been criticised for &quot;flipping&quot; the designation of his second home, enabling him to avoid paying capital gains tax.&#039; Unquote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sunday Telegraph 28.06.2009 reveals more details of John Bercow&#8217;s £40,000 private income. Page 7 Quote by Patrick Sawer &amp; Melissa Kite: &#8216;The new Commons Speaker was accused last night of profiting from his work as a government adviser on special educational needs. John Bercow was paid £40,000 by a health care firm which hired him after he wrote a report that led to a £52 million increase in special needs funding. The MP worked for six months for the Priory Group, which runs a number of special needs schools, giving advice about children who suffer from speech and language difficulties. He attended around five board meetings before he resigned from the post on becoming Speaker last week The payments declared by Mr Bercow in the Register of Members&#8217; Interests will now raise questions about the propriety of MPs taking money from firms working in an area in which they have dealt directly in Parliament.<br />
Tory opponents of Mr Berocow, who was voted in as Michael Martin&#8217;s replacement despite little support from his own party, said the disclosures cast fresh doubts on his suitability as Speaker. &#8221; This calls into question his judgement. He appears to have profited from his work as Brown&#8217;s adviser&#8221;, said one MP.<br />
Mr Bercow, once a member of the right-wing Monday Club but now on the left of his party, has also been criticised for &#8220;flipping&#8221; the designation of his second home, enabling him to avoid paying capital gains tax.&#8217; Unquote.</p>
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		<title>By: BoltonLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoltonLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BREAKING NEWS......
 
 UKIP TO STAND AGAINST JOHN BERCOW IN HIS BUCKINGHAM SEAT AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION..........
 
BUCKS HERALD STORY BELOW:
 
http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/UKIP-will-stand-against-Buckingham.5402229.jp</description>
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<p> UKIP TO STAND AGAINST JOHN BERCOW IN HIS BUCKINGHAM SEAT AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>BUCKS HERALD STORY BELOW:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/UKIP-will-stand-against-Buckingham.5402229.jp" rel="nofollow">http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/UKIP-will-stand-against-Buckingham.5402229.jp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Half-Blood 

&gt;“The bishops do get their house thrown in,”
&gt;Isn’t that half the problem with MPs too, David? :-) 

I think it shows up the difference. The Bishops live strictly over the shop, and the ABC can&#039;t sell Lambeth - which stops him pocketing the difference :-)

[Update to post: Bercow is doing better than I expected, but I&#039;ll still want to see if he can escape this &quot;tiny minority have abused the system&quot; idea. Minority - yes. Tiny minority - no.]
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Half-Blood </p>
<p>>“The bishops do get their house thrown in,”<br />
>Isn’t that half the problem with MPs too, David? <img src='http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think it shows up the difference. The Bishops live strictly over the shop, and the ABC can&#8217;t sell Lambeth &#8211; which stops him pocketing the difference <img src='http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[Update to post: Bercow is doing better than I expected, but I'll still want to see if he can escape this "tiny minority have abused the system" idea. Minority - yes. Tiny minority - no.]</p>
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		<title>By: The Half-Blood Welshman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Half-Blood Welshman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bishops do get their house thrown in,&quot;

Isn&#039;t that half the problem with MPs too, David? :-)

I fully agree that they have far greater responsibilities than most MPs - given they have to look after clergy, and housing, and various trusts, and know something about the spiritual and lay health of their diocese. Also, as this takes a lot of time, they seem to find it difficult to hold down second jobs (not that I&#039;m making a party political point there...)

Maybe we should start thinking of MP as a vocational thing as well...compare them with directors of charities perhaps, as suggested by Dorothy Wainwright for Civil Servants? And pay them accordingly. We wouldn&#039;t get the really greedy and ambitious lot in then, but I&#039;m not sure after the last thirty years whether that would be such an issue. The risk is that it would further confine politics only to those who are loaded already

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Half-Blood Welshman&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehalfwelshman.blogspot.com/2009/06/right-man-for-all-wrong-reasons.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The right man for all the wrong reasons.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bishops do get their house thrown in,&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that half the problem with MPs too, David? <img src='http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I fully agree that they have far greater responsibilities than most MPs &#8211; given they have to look after clergy, and housing, and various trusts, and know something about the spiritual and lay health of their diocese. Also, as this takes a lot of time, they seem to find it difficult to hold down second jobs (not that I&#8217;m making a party political point there&#8230;)</p>
<p>Maybe we should start thinking of MP as a vocational thing as well&#8230;compare them with directors of charities perhaps, as suggested by Dorothy Wainwright for Civil Servants? And pay them accordingly. We wouldn&#8217;t get the really greedy and ambitious lot in then, but I&#8217;m not sure after the last thirty years whether that would be such an issue. The risk is that it would further confine politics only to those who are loaded already</p>
<p><abbr><em>The Half-Blood Welshman&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://thehalfwelshman.blogspot.com/2009/06/right-man-for-all-wrong-reasons.html" rel="nofollow">The right man for all the wrong reasons.</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: BoltonLad</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoltonLad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOHN BERCOW ELECTED SPEAKER 22.06.09 

So the man with seeingly few principles or deeply held convictions was elected. The man who changed his core beliefs and politics to suit his ambitions. How can someone change from being ultra right wing to ultra liberal overnight? What he calls his moment of &#039;enlightenment&#039; or his political journey. Did he have Damascus Road experience? I don&#039;t think so, more like the minute he realised he would have to court New Labour and Lib Dems. MPs favour, to achieve his ambition of becoming Speaker of the House. It is then he must have decided to do whatever it took to achieve his goal. Even if it meant being disloyal to his own party and its leaders and &#039;greasing up&#039; to the opposition at every opportunity. In other words he was prepared to sell his soul for the &#039;pot of gold&#039; he yearned for. Close observers of John Bercow knew this; especially his Tory colleagues. No wonder they had such solemn faces when the result was announced. Only when prompted by David Cameron did a few Tory MPs give a slow and weak hand-clap, the rest decided to keep their arms crossed or hands firmly on their laps. One Tory MP shouted, &#039;Not in my name!&#039; As the labour benches enjoyed their moment of childish spite with their smiling faces knowing they had left their final lasting legacy, by achieving something with their &#039;bloc vote&#039;, that would hurt David Cameron and the Conservative Party when they get into power, long after this New Labour Government sinks beneath the waves;  in their rotten and stinking ship.

Knowing John Bercow&#039;s liberal views on abortion and hearing about his ridiculous amendment that he tabled for the third reading of the Embryology Bill last year, (which wasn&#039;t heard in the end, due to a Government guillotine on the bill) reflected his new ultra liberal views on moral issues. I therefore fear for the protection of unborn children in the UK; when the emotive issue is next debated in the House. I and many others will be watching for his promised fairness and impartiality on such issues. How will he stop himself from ridiculing people who disagree with him? Will he continue to use his old method of shutting down the debate, by personally attacking his opponents to undermine them?  I and many others will be watching him very closely on important debates; especially on moral issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOHN BERCOW ELECTED SPEAKER 22.06.09 </p>
<p>So the man with seeingly few principles or deeply held convictions was elected. The man who changed his core beliefs and politics to suit his ambitions. How can someone change from being ultra right wing to ultra liberal overnight? What he calls his moment of &#8216;enlightenment&#8217; or his political journey. Did he have Damascus Road experience? I don&#8217;t think so, more like the minute he realised he would have to court New Labour and Lib Dems. MPs favour, to achieve his ambition of becoming Speaker of the House. It is then he must have decided to do whatever it took to achieve his goal. Even if it meant being disloyal to his own party and its leaders and &#8216;greasing up&#8217; to the opposition at every opportunity. In other words he was prepared to sell his soul for the &#8216;pot of gold&#8217; he yearned for. Close observers of John Bercow knew this; especially his Tory colleagues. No wonder they had such solemn faces when the result was announced. Only when prompted by David Cameron did a few Tory MPs give a slow and weak hand-clap, the rest decided to keep their arms crossed or hands firmly on their laps. One Tory MP shouted, &#8216;Not in my name!&#8217; As the labour benches enjoyed their moment of childish spite with their smiling faces knowing they had left their final lasting legacy, by achieving something with their &#8216;bloc vote&#8217;, that would hurt David Cameron and the Conservative Party when they get into power, long after this New Labour Government sinks beneath the waves;  in their rotten and stinking ship.</p>
<p>Knowing John Bercow&#8217;s liberal views on abortion and hearing about his ridiculous amendment that he tabled for the third reading of the Embryology Bill last year, (which wasn&#8217;t heard in the end, due to a Government guillotine on the bill) reflected his new ultra liberal views on moral issues. I therefore fear for the protection of unborn children in the UK; when the emotive issue is next debated in the House. I and many others will be watching for his promised fairness and impartiality on such issues. How will he stop himself from ridiculing people who disagree with him? Will he continue to use his old method of shutting down the debate, by personally attacking his opponents to undermine them?  I and many others will be watching him very closely on important debates; especially on moral issues.</p>
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		<title>By: David Keen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Keen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bishops do get their house thrown in, which given the size of them is probably worth upwards of £15k a year, or if you&#039;re the Bishops of Durham/Bath and Wells, beyond calculation. And they might argue that they&#039;re responsible for an average of 500,000-ish souls as well, putting them more on a level with an MEP. But lets not go there!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;David Keen&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://davidkeen.blogspot.com/2009/06/killing-god-youth-and-faith.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Killing God&#039;, Youth and Faith&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bishops do get their house thrown in, which given the size of them is probably worth upwards of £15k a year, or if you&#8217;re the Bishops of Durham/Bath and Wells, beyond calculation. And they might argue that they&#8217;re responsible for an average of 500,000-ish souls as well, putting them more on a level with an MEP. But lets not go there!</p>
<p><abbr><em>David Keen&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://davidkeen.blogspot.com/2009/06/killing-god-youth-and-faith.html" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Killing God&#8217;, Youth and Faith</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Mr Speaker Bercow: the House&#8217;s Jeeves &#124; The Wardman Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Speaker Bercow: the House&#8217;s Jeeves &#124; The Wardman Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carl Gardner &#8226; June 23, 2009   The New House of Commons SpeakerGod help us. John Bercow is the new SpeakerElecting the new Speaker - by ChrisWe should give John Bercow a chance (Mathew Hulbert)Like it or [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Carl Gardner &bull; June 23, 2009   The New House of Commons SpeakerGod help us. John Bercow is the new SpeakerElecting the new Speaker &#8211; by ChrisWe should give John Bercow a chance (Mathew Hulbert)Like it or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Half-Blood Welshman</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Half-Blood Welshman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bishops make a stipend of around £22k,&quot;

Pardon, sorry? There isn&#039;t a flat rate, but generally their stipends seem to start at around £31,000 for a suffragan, up to £37,000 for a diocesan  (rising to about £55,000 for Richard Chartres as Bishop of London). £22,000 is more like a senior parish priest&#039;s pay (which I think starts at £18,000).

Which isn&#039;t a huge amount for the work they do, and would rather bear out your initial point, but even so...

See &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=75432&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Half-Blood Welshman&#180;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://thehalfwelshman.blogspot.com/2009/06/right-man-for-all-wrong-reasons.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The right man for all the wrong reasons.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;

[Ed: Point taken - I&#039;ve quoted the wrong figure. I&#039;m actually after £30k-&gt;£38k, as borne out by the spreadsheet on the CofE website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cofe.anglican.org/lifeevents/ministry/workofmindiv/dracsc/stipendlevels95onwards.xls&quot; target=&quot;new&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Realistic &quot;responsibility&quot; comparisons with MPs could be with &quot;Bishops who sit in Parliament&quot;, or &quot;Bishops who run offices with several personal staff&quot; (i.e., all of them). 

Bishops also have responsibility for anything between (estimating) several dozen and several hundred clergy. On that basis, no backbench MPs come close to the same level of responsibility.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bishops make a stipend of around £22k,&#8221;</p>
<p>Pardon, sorry? There isn&#8217;t a flat rate, but generally their stipends seem to start at around £31,000 for a suffragan, up to £37,000 for a diocesan  (rising to about £55,000 for Richard Chartres as Bishop of London). £22,000 is more like a senior parish priest&#8217;s pay (which I think starts at £18,000).</p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t a huge amount for the work they do, and would rather bear out your initial point, but even so&#8230;</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=75432" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p><abbr><em>The Half-Blood Welshman&#180;s last blog post..<a href="http://thehalfwelshman.blogspot.com/2009/06/right-man-for-all-wrong-reasons.html" rel="nofollow">The right man for all the wrong reasons.</a></em></abbr></p>
<p>[Ed: Point taken - I've quoted the wrong figure. I'm actually after £30k->£38k, as borne out by the spreadsheet on the CofE website <a href="http://www.cofe.anglican.org/lifeevents/ministry/workofmindiv/dracsc/stipendlevels95onwards.xls" target="new" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Realistic "responsibility" comparisons with MPs could be with "Bishops who sit in Parliament", or "Bishops who run offices with several personal staff" (i.e., all of them). </p>
<p>Bishops also have responsibility for anything between (estimating) several dozen and several hundred clergy. On that basis, no backbench MPs come close to the same level of responsibility.</p>
<p>Matt]</p>
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