Comments on: ‘People Want to Know What Values You Bring’: Grave Dave Cameron’s Vision and Values http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/ Politics, Commentary, Culture, Technology. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:24:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Brown, Clegg & Cameron: Your 3-D Guide to 2008 Leaders’ Party Conference Speeches - Touching Base | The Wardman Wire http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/comment-page-1/#comment-11091 Brown, Clegg & Cameron: Your 3-D Guide to 2008 Leaders’ Party Conference Speeches - Touching Base | The Wardman Wire Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:00:38 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/#comment-11091 [...] After 170 minutes and 17,871 words, the 3 speeches are over. Already life, and politics, has moved on. Time for a last look through the entrails before they are cast over the shoulder of history. For those of a stronger disposition, the BBC has the full text of Brown, Clegg and Cameron, and an at a glance comparison article. Hopefully the colour-coding is self explanatory! For a more in-depth look at the 2 main speeches, see this on Brown and this on Cameron. [...]

[...] After 170 minutes and 17,871 words, the 3 speeches are over. Already life, and politics, has moved on. Time for a last look through the entrails before they are cast over the shoulder of history. For those of a stronger disposition, the BBC has the full text of Brown, Clegg and Cameron, and an at a glance comparison article. Hopefully the colour-coding is self explanatory! For a more in-depth look at the 2 main speeches, see this on Brown and this on Cameron. [...]

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/comment-page-1/#comment-11084 Matt Wardman Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:14:52 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/#comment-11084 @David Keen: That looks really good. @David Keen: That looks really good.

]]> By: David Keen http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/comment-page-1/#comment-11083 David Keen Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:37:23 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/#comment-11083 I'm hoping to do a 3-way comparison with Brown and Clegg for Saturday, so I might answer that final question then. It all depends on whether you take people completely at their word, but I found it fascinating that both main leaders gave us a 'vision and values' kind of speech, especially as Browns was 12 months after he first promised it! <abbr><em>David Keen´s last blog post..<a href="http://davidkeen.blogspot.com/2008/10/30-second-christmas.html" rel="nofollow">30 Second Christmas</a></em></abbr> I’m hoping to do a 3-way comparison with Brown and Clegg for Saturday, so I might answer that final question then. It all depends on whether you take people completely at their word, but I found it fascinating that both main leaders gave us a ‘vision and values’ kind of speech, especially as Browns was 12 months after he first promised it!

David Keen´s last blog post..30 Second Christmas

]]> By: Garbo http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/comment-page-1/#comment-11064 Garbo Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:38:11 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/02/people-want-to-know-what-values-you-bring-grave-dave-camerons-vision-and-values/#comment-11064 Very interesting post David. It seems that the biggest strength and weakness about Cameron's speech was that he covered so many issues. He really did play up the values side of things and set them out in many areas - it seems that that has confused some. The other issue is the leap of faith issue - is he all talk? The problem with this is, no one will know unless he becomes PM. I think he said all the right things and demonstrated he understands what values are important and right to have. I do think he has someway to go before people believe him and maybe he needs to focus on the issues in a more bite size manner to get his message across more effectively to the masses. Now you have seen both speeches, who would you most trust as the moral compass for the UK? I would say, on the speech alone it was Cameron, but on the wider context I am still unsure. Very interesting post David. It seems that the biggest strength and weakness about Cameron’s speech was that he covered so many issues. He really did play up the values side of things and set them out in many areas - it seems that that has confused some. The other issue is the leap of faith issue - is he all talk? The problem with this is, no one will know unless he becomes PM.

I think he said all the right things and demonstrated he understands what values are important and right to have. I do think he has someway to go before people believe him and maybe he needs to focus on the issues in a more bite size manner to get his message across more effectively to the masses.

Now you have seen both speeches, who would you most trust as the moral compass for the UK? I would say, on the speech alone it was Cameron, but on the wider context I am still unsure.

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