Comments on: Cameron’s keynote speech just got a whole lot harder: Conference Special by Garbo http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/ Politics, Commentary, Culture, Technology. Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:40:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Garbo http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/comment-page-1/#comment-11021 Garbo Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:35:45 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/?p=4971#comment-11021 It was a real gamble to mention the T word. I did raise my eyebrows when it was said - especially as it was said in the in the context of change. I think Cameron was referring to her to appeal to the right of the party, while other parts of the speech would have appealed more to the left. Personally, I would have left her out of it. Then again, as Liam says, it is a bit short sighted to keep going back to twenty years ago just because her name is mentioned. Though to be honest, with the rise of the SNP the Tories really do not stand much chance in Scotland anyway as they are now, at best, the third party up there. Think the real danger is that it will alienate those in the North and other regions of England and Wales where the Tories have a chance of winning some seats. It was a real gamble to mention the T word. I did raise my eyebrows when it was said - especially as it was said in the in the context of change. I think Cameron was referring to her to appeal to the right of the party, while other parts of the speech would have appealed more to the left. Personally, I would have left her out of it.

Then again, as Liam says, it is a bit short sighted to keep going back to twenty years ago just because her name is mentioned. Though to be honest, with the rise of the SNP the Tories really do not stand much chance in Scotland anyway as they are now, at best, the third party up there. Think the real danger is that it will alienate those in the North and other regions of England and Wales where the Tories have a chance of winning some seats.

]]> By: Liam Murray http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/comment-page-1/#comment-11020 Liam Murray Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:26:17 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/?p=4971#comment-11020 Hard to take seriously 'Big Col's position - had he forgotten about Thatcher until Cameron named her or is the very mention of her name enough to kill debate and discussion? Neither explanation casts him in a good light. That said there are lots of 'Big Col's in Scotland - on Cameron's part the truth is it has little impact because his Tory re-brand hasn't seriously impacted party support up here.... Hard to take seriously ‘Big Col’s position - had he forgotten about Thatcher until Cameron named her or is the very mention of her name enough to kill debate and discussion? Neither explanation casts him in a good light.

That said there are lots of ‘Big Col’s in Scotland - on Cameron’s part the truth is it has little impact because his Tory re-brand hasn’t seriously impacted party support up here….

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/comment-page-1/#comment-11019 Matt Wardman Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:22:53 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/?p=4971#comment-11019 Do you think David Cameron has cooked his goose completely in Scotland by praising Maggie Thatcher? Or did he calculate that it didn't matter? If so, what are the implications for the devolution arguments? Hmmm. Do you think David Cameron has cooked his goose completely in Scotland by praising Maggie Thatcher?
Or did he calculate that it didn’t matter?
If so, what are the implications for the devolution arguments?

Hmmm.

]]> By: Matt Wardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/comment-page-1/#comment-11018 Matt Wardman Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:05:51 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/?p=4971#comment-11018 @BIG COL: Thanks for the comment, Col. From the point of view of the Conservatives winning votes among a lot of the people in Scotland, I think I may well agree with you. I'll be interested to see what Garbo and Dave C have to say on that. Matt @BIG COL: Thanks for the comment, Col.

From the point of view of the Conservatives winning votes among a lot of the people in Scotland, I think I may well agree with you.

I’ll be interested to see what Garbo and Dave C have to say on that.

Matt

]]> By: BIG COL http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/10/01/camerons-keynote-speech-just-got-a-whole-lot-harder-conference-special-by-garbo/comment-page-1/#comment-11017 BIG COL Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:21:07 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/?p=4971#comment-11017 I WAS SAILING ALONG WITH CAMERON ,POSSIBLY SWINGING FROM LABOUR TO CONSERVATIVE WITH MY VOTE ,ALL WAS WELL TILL HE OPENED UP AND LET HIS UGLY HEAD BELCH OUT THE T WORD ,THE VERY REASON THEY WILL NEVER GET VOTES IN SCOTLAND ,EVER ,THATCHER ,WHOEVER PUT THAT IN NEEDS HUNG/DRAWN/QUATERED ,SORRY DAVE BUT AS THEY SAY ,WHATS IN THE MAROWS IN THE BONE I WAS SAILING ALONG WITH CAMERON ,POSSIBLY SWINGING FROM LABOUR TO CONSERVATIVE WITH MY VOTE ,ALL WAS WELL TILL HE OPENED UP AND LET HIS UGLY HEAD BELCH OUT THE T WORD ,THE VERY REASON THEY WILL NEVER GET VOTES IN SCOTLAND ,EVER ,THATCHER ,WHOEVER PUT THAT IN NEEDS HUNG/DRAWN/QUATERED ,SORRY DAVE BUT AS THEY SAY ,WHATS IN THE MAROWS IN THE BONE

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