Comments on: In support of Harry’s Place, with Blog Button: Blog Legal Threats http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/ Politics, Commentary, Culture, Technology. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:46:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Harry’s Place - Round 2 | Freedom http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-10022 Harry’s Place - Round 2 | Freedom Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:30:38 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-10022 [...] In support of Harry’s Place, with Blog Button: Blog Legal Threats [...]

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]]> By: MattWardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9939 MattWardman Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:18:41 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9939 Jeremy: >Why are they nonsensical? How many reasons do you want? Here are three: * It is easier for webhosts to close down legitimate reporting when faced with an *allegation* that it is defamatory, rather than let open debate continue. * Other countries have started to pass laws to protect their citizens from Libel Cases here (<a href="http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=7&storycode=41250&c=1" rel="nofollow">Libel Tourism</a>) - e.g., New York State in the previous link. * In the Dave Walker / SPCK case, which I have been covering, there are examples of reporting (not comment) articles that have not been published on advice from lawyers to be "cautious". That is wrong, and is unhealthy for a democracy. The presumptions are wrong. For more detail, check the last couple of chapters in the Dave Walker document on my <a href="http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/publications/" rel="nofollow">publications</a> page. Matt By the way, what does one have to do to be a "web celeb" :-? Jeremy: >Why are they nonsensical?

How many reasons do you want? Here are three:

* It is easier for webhosts to close down legitimate reporting when faced with an *allegation* that it is defamatory, rather than let open debate continue.

* Other countries have started to pass laws to protect their citizens from Libel Cases here (Libel Tourism) - e.g., New York State in the previous link.

* In the Dave Walker / SPCK case, which I have been covering, there are examples of reporting (not comment) articles that have not been published on advice from lawyers to be “cautious”. That is wrong, and is unhealthy for a democracy.

The presumptions are wrong.

For more detail, check the last couple of chapters in the Dave Walker document on my publications page.

Matt

By the way, what does one have to do to be a “web celeb” :-?

]]> By: MattWardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9937 MattWardman Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:55:12 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9937 @Baht At: >Perhaps if Harry’s Place spent less effort on it’s anti-arab hatred and generally being a pain the arse and more on being a decent blog it wouldn’t get into these situations. I'm certainly not agreeing with everything HP say. >I very much doubt that any complaint made about the sort of ranting that gets posted on Harry’s Place is malicious, more a case of the target getting pissed off with the constant harrasment form a bunch of neo-con nutters. But they were closed down for reporting a fact. That's not acceptable. The day I can close down somebody else's website because they piss me off is the day we have a hell of a problem. We have a hell of a problem. @Baht At:
>Perhaps if Harry’s Place spent less effort on it’s anti-arab hatred and generally being a pain the arse and more on being a decent blog it wouldn’t get into these situations.

I’m certainly not agreeing with everything HP say.

>I very much doubt that any complaint made about the sort of ranting that gets posted on Harry’s Place is malicious, more a case of the target getting pissed off with the constant harrasment form a bunch of neo-con nutters.

But they were closed down for reporting a fact. That’s not acceptable.

The day I can close down somebody else’s website because they piss me off is the day we have a hell of a problem.

We have a hell of a problem.

]]> By: Jeremy Jacobs http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9929 Jeremy Jacobs Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:29:22 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9929 "Britain’s nonsensical Libel Laws" Why are they nonsensical? Jeremy Jacobs's last blog post..<a href="http://corporatepresenter.blogspot.com/2008/08/no-mention-of-it-last-night-at-new.html" rel="nofollow">Boy Band Blue to reform?</a> “Britain’s nonsensical Libel Laws”

Why are they nonsensical?

Jeremy Jacobs’s last blog post..Boy Band Blue to reform?

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]]> By: MattWardman http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9856 MattWardman Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:14:39 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9856 @E.D. Kain: Thanks Ed. The graphic is for use by anyone. Matt @E.D. Kain: Thanks Ed.

The graphic is for use by anyone.

Matt

]]> By: Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline? | NeoConstant http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9855 Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline? | NeoConstant Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:39:04 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9855 [...] In support of Harry’s Place, with Blog Button: Blog Legal Threats [...]

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]]> By: E.D. Kain http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/comment-page-1/#comment-9854 E.D. Kain Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:02:35 +0000 http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2008/08/27/in-support-of-harrys-place-with-blog-button-blog-legal-threats/#comment-9854 Matt, thanks for writing about this. I've got the blogburst revved up on this one again as well...I like the graphic, too! <a href="http://www.neoconstant.com/793/support-harrys-place-blogburst-part-2-harrys-place-offline/" rel="nofollow">Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline?</a> E.D. Kain's last blog post..<a href="http://www.neoconstant.com/793/support-harrys-place-blogburst-part-2-harrys-place-offline/" rel="nofollow">Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline?</a> Matt, thanks for writing about this. I’ve got the blogburst revved up on this one again as well…I like the graphic, too!

Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline?

E.D. Kain’s last blog post..Support Harry’s Place Blogburst Part 2: Harry’s Place Offline?

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