Hot Issue of the Week: Was Enoch Right? by the Thunderdragon
[Editors note: I've reformatted the column due to a glitch in Wordpress. Any problems are down to me not the Dragon].
Issue of the Week: Was Enoch Right?
A week is a long time in politics.
This is a new section on the Wardman Wire. Each week, hopefully to be usually posted on every Friday morning, there will be a post on the biggest political issue of the past week. We hope to provide a background summary of the issue, links to opinion both from the media and blogs, and some measure of examination on what effect this has had on the wider political situation.
Background
This issue began with Nigel Hastilow writing a column in the Wolverhampton Express and Star in which he said:
When you ask most people in the Black Country what the single biggest problem facing the country is, most people say immigration. Many insist: “Enoch Powell was right”. Enoch, once MP for Wolverhampton South West, was sacked from the Conservative front bench and marginalised politically for his 1968 “rivers of blood” speech warning that uncontrolled immigration would change our country irrevocably. He was right. It has changed dramatically.
He was swiftly rebuked by his party, and attacked by Peter Hain as “expos[ing] the racist underbelly of the Tory party”, and illustrating that “in the undergrowth of the Tory Party…there are all these backwards reactionary sentiments”.
Then, after a discussion with party chairman Caroline Spelman, Hastilow resigned, having refused to apologise for saying that Powell was “right”, followed by criticisms from Hazel Blears for Cameron having “dithered” for 24 hours, and not having condemned Hastilow’s words.
This has also been followed by a defection offer to Hastilow from UKIP.
What’s been said?
This issue has certainly been big all over the media this week, and has gained plenty of commentary in both newspapers and on blogs. Comments tend to fit into one of the following categories. Either they seem to agree entirely with Hastilow’s statements, or they think he was mistaken to invoke Powell’s words but generally right, and those who consider it either racist or just wrong to talk about the subject – especially if you invoke Enoch Powell at all.
In the Telegraph, Simon Heffer writes in support of Hastilow and Powell, saying:
I wanted to be shocked by the removal of Nigel Hastilow from his parliamentary candidacy for having said that Enoch Powell was right about immigration, but it was impossible…
I am, in the first instance, genuinely outraged at the insult the Hastilow affair throws at the memory and reputation of Enoch Powell.
Powell was, quite simply, the most influential politician of the post-war period.
The insult to Powell consists in this unsustainable idea that the Birmingham speech was “racist”.
This is opposed by Daniel Finkelstein on his Times Comment Central blog, who instead thinks that:
Is it fair to accuse Powell of being inflammatory and using racist language in his speech? Absolutely.
In the Independent, Yasmin Alibhai-Brown uses the issue as an excuse for a rather odd column that really defies explanation. The most common-sense MSM opinion pieces on this issue come from the Thunderer in the Times and, rather surprisingly, Michael White on Comment is Free:
Colleagues who knew him insist Enoch wasn’t a racist. He wasn’t right, either. But he did have a point and we should discuss it like grown-ups, not throw our hands up in horror and sweep it under the carpet.
And now in the blogosphere:
‘Enoch’ appears to be a dirty word to some. However, some blogs wrote their article under the title “Enoch was right”, including myself, though all qualify their statements through pointing at Enoch’s own words, rather than those that he quoted from members of the public – such as the word “piccaninnies” and the phrase “ the black man will have the whip hand over the white man”. Like the Union Flag, it is not owned by extremists. Contrast these with Neil Harding’s claim that “Enoch was wrong”.
Some look at the numbers quoted by Powell in his speech which compare in Powell’s favour with the reality – his predictions were too low. And others lament the political correctness which has led to the “cul de sac of fear”:
There was, let’s face it, no possible way that the modern Tory party or our lame, pathetic media, steeped as they are in the fear of political correctness, could tolerate this reawakening of such an embarrassing skeleton in their collective cupboard.
Those such as Tony Sharp and Dizzy point out the hypocrisy in the accusation of racism at the Tories by Labour ministers because just one PPC dares to mention the name Enoch Powell in the same sentence as the topic of immigration and correctness, whilst the Labour Prime Minister talks of ‘British Jobs for British Workers’ - a calling card of the white supremest [sic] BNP for the past 30 years.”
Those on the left wrote about this issue as well, with Mike Ion being “magnanimous” and saying:
Does this make him a racist? No. Does it make him look like an idiot? Yes.
PoliticalHack has a good point about being careful what you write about – after all “if you keeping blowing dog whistles, you can’t complain if the hounds pursue you.” This issue also brought out the claim that “The Tories still don’t get racism” from Sunny of Pickled Politics. Unfortunately it seems that he hasn’t actually read – or at least understood - Powell’s April 1968 speech, since he says:
Powell’s point was that brown / black people coming here would wreck this country because they only wished to subjugate white people. He saw no likelihood that Britain could ever be a multi-racial society at ease with itself. White and black could not mix at all.
Which is incorrect, since Powell made no such claims – instead he was worried about the likelihood of integration. He wasn’t opposed to it, but sceptical about whether it would happen. That was the point of his most famous speech. Sunny also seems willing to claim that Powell was a racist – again having done what research? I wrote my undergraduate dissertation on that very topic – and I had no choice but to conclude that Powell certainly wasn’t a racist [or even racialist]. This lack of having read, or at the very least understood, the speech is also unfortunately demonstrated by Oliver Kamm.
And finally, Mary Beard has a look at Powell’s speech through the perspective of a classicist, and Iain Dale looks at the side effects of this issue – will it mean that all politicians become as good as factory produced? Answers on a postcard to that one.
Analysis
The curse of Enoch Powell and of uttering the three words most likely to condemn any politician’s career: Enoch was right. But this is less down to what Enoch Powell actually said, but more down to how it has been interpreted by the media and how his “Rivers of Blood” speech has become known as a “racist” speech – despite it not being so. Inflammatory, certainly, but not racist in itself.
What this has meant is an almost certain end to Nigel Hastilow’s political career, just as his April 1968 speech effectively ended Powell’s. But I think that in the end this will pretty much blow over, with the sole casualty being Hastilow himself – a relatively unimportant PPC and few other real effects on the party or Cameron himself.
Like with Powell himself, the criticisms come far more from the media and politicians than from the people themselves, who tend to be far more pragmatic over this issue. Short-term damage may exist, but in the long-term? Bugger all, really.
Especially at this stage of the electoral cycle.
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Re Enoch Powell and his “rivers of blood” speech.
Powell said a lot of things which other politicians were (and it appears are), afraid to acknowledge. Afraid because of the political correctness that has begun to blight free speech in Britain.
A few questions:
1. What did the 7/7 incident create apart from “rivers of blood” of all nationalities and creeds?
2. Who perpetrated 7/7? Radical Muslims (who do not wish to integrate) did.
3. Which group within our society has set up training camps within our land, where they trained young radicals in violence? Certainly not the Methodists!!
4. Which group has radicals which seek to change our law to that of a 14th century religion?
5. Which group refuses to integrate into British society?
6. Which group attempts at every opportunity to make the point that one form or other of the British way of life should be changed to accommodate their lifestyle?
7. Which group treats their women in such a way as to deny them their equal rights under British law?
There are many more examples I can quote.
The point is that the above were warned against by an honourable man, Enoch Powell, who was so badly treated for his remarks, (which were his perceptions of reality which he expressed at the time).
He was castigated at the time, and continues to be so.
It is a little frightening in the cradle of free speech and opinion, that now “certain” opinions are banned from speech.
Orwell`s “DoubleSpeak” is alive and well!
No-one can deny that the above points are examples of what we are aware of today.
As Enoch Powell was warning of the above, how does that make him a “racist”???
It is deplorable that, with all the facts at our disposal, that our elected representatives are seeking to appease a group who have made no secret of their hatred for our democratic way of life.
Our response ?? ID cards!!
Enoch Powell spoke the truth it seems by voicing his unpopular opinions which he saw as the truth.
It is clear that present day politicians also do not like the truth!
jhill, you’ve misread Powell’s speech at least as badly as those mentioned above, just in the opposite direction.
Whoever wote is column is the most racist person I have ever witnessed. I have lived in this country for over 60 years i am not a muslim but i have seen that the changes that have happened over the 60 years and these changes have been for the good of this nation i think without the muslims or all the other ethnic groups britain would be a dull, tedious, grey, dreary place. Ethnic groups have made this country so beautiful to live in as i can have the most wonderful of conversations with my nieghbour who is asian and not judge him by his colour or his religion. I think whoever wote this column the people of britain despise you and look down at you beacuse the people that get on well in this world also are the ones that do wonderfully well in life, and i think is well and truly wrong and I thank god almighty there is a small minority of you who think this dreaded things.
Jonathon
I think you need to be a touch more precise - which points exactly are you critiquing?
I’ll pass your comment on to the Thunderdragon.
Matt W
Jonathan, read my blog, and then try calling me a racist. I couldn’t care less what the colour of anyone’s skin is. Or where their “country of origin” is. As far as I am concerned, if you are in Britain legally, I couldn’t care less if you are black, white, green, or red. Or any other colour of the rainbow.
I agree that Britain would be a far less colourful place without immigration - and I support immigration completely, so long as those who come here work.
Also, please explain how on earth you can you possibly get the idea that I am “the most racist person [you] have ever witnessed” from that post?!
i have friends of ethnic origion but despite people are people the country is in a horrific state and will soon get worse which nobody is taking seriously, this will effect everyone who is i british citizen of any race and all the goverment is doing is transferring poverty from one place to another, which is wrong. our culture is’nt respected therefore we all need to stick up for ourselves, stop giving outsiders everything and like most other countrys have some control on the situation, before its too late then it woud b ok. basicall no wen to close the doors
i believe no one should be silenced from an opinion of any kind nobody has the GOD giving right to dictate someone just because they dont like what they hear even if it is about race im, outspoken and ive often bin mistaken for a racist because of my views on certain issues cos everytime i say what i say others to suite themselves will start branding u with a card just to win an argument basicaly we’ve sin better days